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it's will be hard, but the time is now. you must act. be bold, be courageous. americans are counting on you. >> hillary clinton's exit from the world stage, but for how long? >> what do you think didn't go well, what went wrong? >> well, benghazi went wrong. >> when that phone call rings at 3:00 in the morning, who's best prepared to answer it in 2016? >> well, that is to be decided by the american people. >> but will her health be a deciding factor? >> i'm healthy enough and my stamina is great enough. i'll be fully recovered to do whatever i choose to do. >> massachusetts governor deval patrick chooses his former chief
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of staff to fill john kerry's seat. it's the first time two african-americans will be in the senate statement. and john kerry about to be famous on the world stage, but even in boston, sometimes not everybody knows your name. >> love the report you did on that train wreck. they ought to get you for "60 minutes." >> i'm john kerry, senator kerry from massachusetts? >> our senator? i'm sorry, man. so sorry. >> good day, i'm andrea mitchell live in new york today. the gun debate took on new emotional force with the reappearance of gabby giffords in the senate judiciary hearing. joining me now for our daily fix, chris cillizza, msnbc contributor and managing editor of and ruth marcus. well, it was so personal, so emotional, so painful. chris cillizza, could anybody do
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a better job than gabby giffords to bring home the powerful impact of the gun debate and, in her case, the magazines? >> you know, andrea, it was incredibly sort of personal and touching, and i think even more so for those members of congress who know that she was at a constituent service event when this happened, that it could have been any one of them, and it happened to be her. i did think it was telling senator durbin from illinois, apologize former congressman giffords had already left, but apologized to mark kelly this hearing wasn't happening two years ago in the wake of her being shot, but i do think it's a telling sign that we tend to, newtown may have changed this dynamic, but we tend to have a huge discussion about guns and gun control and the need to regulate them, then that discussion goes away quickly. the question is, is newtown different, does gabby giffords
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help keep that momentum up with her testimony today? we're going to find out as this proposal president obama made goes through congress. >> ruth marcus, i wanted to show you and chris this testy exchange between dick durbin and wayne lapierre, also sitting two seats over from mark kelly on that panel today. >> we got to get in the real world on what works and what doesn't work. my problem with background checks is, you're never going to get criminals to go through universal background checks. >> mr. lapierre, that's the point. the criminals won't go to purchase the guns, because there will be a background check. we'll stop them from the original purchase. you missed that point completely. i think it's basic. >> senator, i think you missed -- >> there will be order. there will be order. mr. lapierre, wait. mr. lapierre, please, wait. everybody, for a moment. i said earlier, there will be
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order. >> ruth, i mean, the testimony from mark kelly, from others, were that the shots, it was his ability to get off so many shots, that basically killed the 9-year-old girl. >> there were a bunch of different points. i was watching all morning, which you just sort of wanted to lean out and throttle the folks on your tv screen. gabrielle giffords' testimony was just heartbreaking, and i think it was particularly powerful, because everybody who knows her, understands that she did not come to this from the position of a stridently liberal anti-gun activist. she's a gun owner. mark kelly's testimony was very, very powerful about how he and gabrielle giffords are gun owners and believe in the importance of guns and owning guns. what i find most frustrating of the testimony from mr. lapierre
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and others is, there is no solution they appear willing to accept, unless it is guaranteed to stop every single incident of gun violence, and, of course, that's just not going to ever happen. but his argument about background checks and that conversation with senator durbin, for example, criminals won't go through background checks, so, therefore, we can't get rid of the background check loophole. then why do we have background checks at all? is that what the nra is arguing for? it's just very frustrating, because this is a terrible phrase, there is no silver bullet when it comes to gun violence, but there are a bunch of reasonable, rational steps, and the first two i would point to are expanding background checks and dealing with the magazine questions so the 9-year-old girl might still be alive. >> and ruth and chris, the other argument that wayne lapierre made from the get go is that law-abiding citizens aren't the problem. adam lanza's mother is a
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law-abiding gun owner, and she continued to buy guns for her son for christmas and birthdays knowing that he had mental challenges. i mean, law-abiding citizens are part of the problem if they permit access of guns to go to people who should not have them. let's listen to just a moment of mark kelly. >> we believe wholly and completely in the second amendment and that it confers upon all americans the right to own a firearm for protection, collection, and recreation. we take that right very seriously, and we would never, ever give it up, just like gabby would never relinquish her gun, and i would never relinquish mine, but rights demand responsibility. >> now, as we looked at this hearing today, and again the senate judiciary committee, an all-white panel, something historic did happen today, massachusetts governor deval patrick did appoint an interim
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senator to replace john kerry, mo cowan. for the first time there will be two african-americans in the senate serving at the same time. let's watch the governor. >> there is talent in every community in the commonwealth and to the extent that we can reflect that and encourage, you know, little boys and girls of color or who are poor or who come -- who grew up in marginalized circumstances to imagine what it might be like to serve the public in these ways, and i think that's a great thing. >> of course, we're talking about two out of 100, so we are inching along incrementally, but we understand, chris, why deval patrick made this decision, despite the open campaigning for this seat, temporary seat, from barney frank. >> it's clear from that statement that he wanted to make, granted it's a five-month interim appointment, but he
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wanted to make a symbolic point here, and he clearly has. the point you make we have never before had two black senators in the senate, it's all the more remarkable, because we have a african-american president. when i read that this morning, i thought, well, that can't be right. i sort of went back, that is right. it shows you we've come some way, but there's plenty more way to go. >> ruth marcus and chris cillizza, thanks so much to you. >> thanks, andrea. now to hillary clinton. we sat down yesterday to talk about her accomplishments, traveling nearly 1 million miles, 112 countries over four years, and the challenges still ahead for american diplomacy. >> madam secretary, thank you so much for joining us. important moment as you leave this office, are you thinking about your legislate si, h-- le what do you want your legacy to be? >> well, andrea, i think given
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the inheritance we had when we came in to office in this administration, we had an overwhelming imperative to restore american leadership. it was in question, and it was in part because of political decisions that had been made prior to the obama administration, but also because of the economic crisis and the feeling that somehow america had caused this, and so part of the responsibility i had was to go out, fly the flag, restore that confidence, make it clear that our leadership was intact, to set the table for the pivot to asia, to dealing with the arab revolution, to restoring really close relationships with our partners in europe, looking to enhance the neighborhood in latin america, and on so many issues, whether it was putting together international coalitions with iran and north korea, figuring out what to do with libya that would bring an
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unprecedented coalition between arab and nato countries, or whether it was just looking down the road at how we were doing diplomacy and introducing new tools into that mix, it was a very different time than ten, 20, 30, 40 years ago. i've kidded our mutual friend, henry kissinger, think how impossible it would have been for him to sneak off to china in the age of cell phones, twitter, facebook, everything else. it is a time that is testing us. i think we're passing the test, and quite comfortably, but the whole world scene is one now that is so quickly changing and challenging us that, you know, the traditional mode of doing diplomacy is not enough for what we face. >> what do you think didn't go well, what went wrong? >> well, benghazi went wrong.
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you know, that was a terrible example of trying to get the right balance of being in a threatening place or not being there, looking after american interests, which meant keeping an eye on the militants and extremists who we knew were reconstituting themselves in eastern libya, trying to track down man pads that could get into the wrong hands, and, unfortunately, many have. so, you are constantly making a calculus, how you balance all of this off. and because there's no part of the world that is irrelevant to the united states anymore, when i came into office, did we worry about governments changing in north africa and the middle east? did we worry about a place called mali becoming a potential safe haven for terrorists? did we think we could get an opening in berma?
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i could go on and on. there are things you know you always have to deal with, the threat of nuclear weapons and their spread, the threat of extremism and its incredible dangers and on and on. those are the challenges, but then you have to also respond to the crises of the moment. do everything you can to manage them, and then you have to take a longer view at what are the trend lines, what is technology going to do to us, what is climate change going to do to us? what are we going to do to enhance the roles of women and girls, so it's a fascinating time to have this job. >> when you took responsibility and you told the senate and the house -- you took responsibility for benghazi and you said you get more than 1 million cables to the state department a year, but in retrospect, shouldn't a cable warning of a security threat from an ambassador in a conflict zone get the highest
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attention immediately? that's what we're hoping to make sure does happen in the future. the security professionals get it right far more than they get it wrong. we've had a long list of attacks averted, assassination plots broken up, so much. i have a great deal of confidence in them, but, you know, it's an institution of human beings. nearly 70,000 of them, and as the accountability review board said, there were some wrong decisions made. and, unfortunately, we suffered grievous losses. >> i was with you in 1995 in beijing when you said, famously, that human rights are womens rights and womens rights are human rights. is that a big parking lt of you legacy here, and do you have concerns as we withdraw from afghanistan, for instance, the taliban will force a serious erosion, if not a complete erosion, of womens rights? >> on the first point, i do value it as part of my legacy,
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because i think it's common sense. if we don't pay attention to the lives and roles of women, we will pay a price, and it's not just a political price or a security threat that we have to contend with, it's economic. i mean, the world bank and so many other research organizations have made it abundantly clear, the world economy would be recovering faster if barriers to womens participation were torn down. when it comes to afghanistan, i worry constantly what happens there, for everyone, but in particular women and girls. we've made a lot of advancements. a far greater number of girls are going to school, women are running businesses, practicing their professions, but there is a very large group of women who mostly are in the countryside or in settings where the theories and practices of including women are not accepted.
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and i worry particularly about extremist groups, fanatics, who shoot, you know, teenaged girls because they want to go to school. that is just beyond my comprehension, but i know it happens, because i deal with it every day. we have a long way to go, and it's not only in afghanistan. in many parts of the world, the depravation women face, the discrimination, the abuse, rape is a tool of war, sexual violence as a means of keeping women in their place, we have a lot of work to do, and i'm determined to continue that when i leave. >> and up next, more from hillary clinton. what she says about her health and her plans for 2016. and still ahead, hagel in the hot seat. how contentious could that confirmation fight get? this is "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. n. i felt like my feet were going to sleep. it was like pins and needles sticking in your toes and in your feet. it progressed from there to burning
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and welcome back. more from hillary clinton on her tenure as secretary of state and what lies ahead as she prepares to leave the state department.a administration took too hard a line on the settlements with prime minister netanyahu in the first year than recalibrated, but by then the atmosphere was bad and there has been not as much progress as many would like in the middle east israeli palestinian track? >> well, i think this is unfinished work, and it must continue, and i know john kerry wants to work on this area, but i want to just step back for ad to a ten-month settlement freeze. it wasn't everything, but it was unprecedented. i flew to jerusalem, stood on a stage with him late at night and really gave him credit for taking a step no prior prime
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minister had. we thought, the israelis and we, that this would open the door to serious negotiations with our palestinian counterparts. that didn't happen until, literally, the last month of the settlement freeze, and it just shows how difficult it is for both sides to act at the same time, and it's something that i have thought a lot about, because, of course, i lived through it when my, me some progress with egypt or what my husband did with jordan, getting peace treaties with states, but when it comes to this very difficult situation between the israelis and the palestinians, there is an enormous amount of work to do, and i try to make the point that the palestinians deserve their state, their aspirations should be recognized. under president habas, they've made a lot of progress in the
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west bank, but they have to make some compromises. that's how you get agreements, and with the israelis, they deserve to have a secure state that has borders that are respected, and they don't have to worry about rockets that are fired at them all day, every day. but they, too, have to figure out how to work that out with a partner who is still committed to a two-state solution, so there have been decades of missed opportunities, of disappointments, but i come from the school that believes you have to keep trying. you get up every day, no matter how difficult it is, because the alternative is a vacuum, which is not good for israel and not good for those palestinians who still believe in a two-state solution. >> arguably, it's harder because of the arab spring and other events that happen. in retrospect, was there a lot of disagreement in the team about how to handle mubarak and do you think it sent a signal to other allies, saudi arabia,
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bahrain, that we're not going to be there for them? did it unsettle other parts of the world? >> i think it was an inevitable force of history, that when egyptian people were rising up in such large numbers asking for what we believe in, freedom and opportunity, a chance to, you know, chart their own democratic future, the united states cannot and should not be on the side of those who deny that. at the same time, i think there was a tremendous effort made to try to work with, send messages to, president mubarak and those around him to handle the situation in a fashion that would create some openings for real reform going forward. but that turned out not to be possible. >> that brings to mind the 2008 campaign commercial. when that phone call rings at 3:00 in the morning, who should -- who's best prepared to
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answer it in 2016?merin people, thing i've learned is that the phone rings day and night. >> not just 3:00 in the morning. >> because it is 3:00 in the morning somewhere every day somewhere else, you know, when you're s i think that the ameri people have to decide what will be our posture, the form of our leadership, what is the amount of involvement, militarily, diplomatically. that's a long way off. >> what factors are go into making your decision? how much will health, your own personal health, you ran 100 miles an hour for all of these years, and in some way, perhaps, that contributed, you know, to what happened. how does your feeling about your health care, we know that you've had at least two clots, how does that factor into a decision
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about whether to run for president and all the flying it entails? >> it doesn't factor in at all. i have no doubt i'm healthy enough and my stamina's great enough and i'll be fully recovered to do whatever i choose to do, but i don't have any decisions made. i have no real plans to make any such decisions. i'm looking very quiet time, catching up on everything from sleep, to reading, to walking with my family. i think it's hard to imagine, for me, what it will be like next week when i wake up, i have nowhere to go, maybe i'll go back to sleep for a change. >> are you convinced that the original fall that led to the concussion, are you convinced that that fall was caused by dehydration, have your doctors ruled out any vascular -- >> oh, yeah. it was virus. i had a vicious viral attack that caused all the unpleasant things that viruses can cause
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these days, and on top of being dehydrated, you know, i fell and had a concussion. but, you know, that happens, unfortunately, all too often to people, and i've certainly gained a great deal of knowledge and sympathy for people who go through that, whether it's on the athletic field or the battlefield or in your bathroom, as it was for me. >> in 2012, in december, you told my friend, barbara walters, you had no intention for running for president. >> right. >> it sounded familiar, so we looked it up, in december of 2001, you told tim russert you had no intention of running for president. >> and i didn't. >> so things change. but do you feel that joe biden, as the vice president, as the right of first refusal, as it were, within the party, or is it an open competition if you decide to run? >> well, american politics is always an open competition, but i have no, you know, no position
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on any of this, i have no opinion about it. i'm still secretary of state. i can't really engaged in politics, and for the foreseeable future, i don't think that i will be at all political, because there's just so much else i need to do. i need to determine my fill an fl tlopic activities, i'm going to write and speak. >> two pacs already engaged. >> i just learned that. >> supporters of president obama helped retire your campaign debt and left you, in fact, with a quarter million surplus. is that another thank you? does that signal how close you have come, despite the past campaign? >> i think the president said it very well, i mean, we've not only been great partners and colleagues, but friends. i am so grateful for that, because it's been an extraordinary experience working with him, being in his cabinet, thinking through a lot of these very difficult decisions, some
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of them truly unprecedented, unpredicted, that we've had to contend with. so, i'm grateful for the opportunity and looking forward to helping him in whatever way i can as i leave this office. >> and when he and you both acknowledge that your staffs and your spouses took longer to heal, what was the breakthrough, the turning point for president clinton and president obama, do you think? >> bill certainly worked very hard for the president in the '08 general election. he also consulted with the white house on some of the economic issues and was very committed to, you know, being as good of a supporter as he possibly could, and they just got to know each other more than they ever had before. i don't think there had been an opportunity for them to do that before this last four years. >> well, it's been virtually a million miles and 112 countries and a lot of years and shared
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fun and we congratulate you. >> thank you very much, andrea. >> as we speak, the secretary is having lunch at the white house with the president. chuck hagel's big hearing is tomorrow. that next. later, the oscar-nominated documentary exposing the horrific scale of sexual violence in the military. it's time for the your business entrepreneur of the week. justin's unique designs and attention to customers' fish gained him celebrity clientele. for more, watch "your business" sunday mornings at 7:30 on msnbc. [ fishing rod casting line, marching band playing ]
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of course, i campaigned in 2000 for additional restrictions on sale and distribution of these weapons. i spoke at the memorial service at columbine and said frequently, no more columbines. we've had six gun incidents in schools this year, and it's still january. it is time to act, and the horrific tragedy at sandy hook elementary has to be the crossing of a line beyond which we finally do act. >> in fact, this is the first vigorous gun debate that we've had in this country since the 2000 campaign. >> yeah. >> do you feel that the gun debate and the positions that you took cost you arkansas, tennessee your home state, potentially led to that election outcome? >> i think it's more complicated
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than that. i know that some seasoned political observers have made that argument. i don't fully agree. it was, certainly, a factor, but it was only one of many factors. >> but the nra was coming after you. >> yes, that's true, but the so-called upper south has been trending heavily republican for quite some time now for a variety of reasons. really ever since brown versus board of education. >> and al gore looks to the future. the book is "the future," where he'll talk about extreme weather and climate change and that profitable al zjazeera deal. and coming up next, chuck hagel's confirmation challenge. senators bill nelson and jeanne shaheen joining us next on "andrea mitchell reports." [ male announcer ] wouldn't it be cool
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party, georgia democrat sam nunn and john warner. joining me now, florida senator bill nelson and new hampshire senator jeanne shaheen. thank you both for joining us today. big day for chuck hagel. senator shaheen, what is your notion right now, do you think he can get past all the criticism he's had from groups concerned about his positions on nuclear weapons, on israel, on iran, on women in combat, big issue for you, i know, from your work on the defense appropriation bill, and also the gay community? >> well, i had some serious questions for chuck hagel when we sat down last week, but he answered them satisfactorily. i think senator cochran from mississippi came out and supported him, he's had a recent letter with a very strong bipartisan list of former defense secretaries, including colin powell and gates and a
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bipartisan group of secretaries of state and defense. i think all of that speaks to his favor, and, as i said, i was pleased to hear his responses on some of the questions i asked him about how he was going to implement things like the shaheen amendment that makes sure that women in the military who are victims of rape or incest can get access to reproductive health services, to abortion if they choose to do that. and he gave me very positive responses, even though he pointed out he's anti-choice. he said his policy would be to implement the laws that have been passed by this congress and to support the administration's policies, so i was pleased to hear his responses. >> senator nelson, you've been around for a long time, you and senator shaheen, what are the pitfalls, though, for chuck hagel, because there are going to be some people gunning for him tomorrow. >> the pitfalls are partisan politics, plain and simple.
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chuck will be confirmed, but it won't be without a fight, and unfortunately, we're going to have to have the fight, but he's a solid former u.s. senator. he's a patriot, he's a good public servant, and i think he will be confirmed. >> let me ask you both about gun legislation, because we had this powerfully emotional hearing with gabby giffords testifying in front of pat leahy and the judiciary committee today. senator shaheen, will that make a difference this time? >> i think anybody who watched gabby giffords had to be moved by the example, the real inspirational example, that she's provided, she and her husband mark kelly, and their effort to address the gun violence that we've seen way too much of in this country, and i'm hopeful that as the result of this debate, we are going to see some comprehensive legislation
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that really gets at the causes of some of this violence. i think the comprehensive background checks is something that we ought to be looking very closely at, i think let's look at our mental health system, and let's look at how the magazines and all of the issues that are contributing to the situation that we have right now. >> and, senator nelson, with you and senator shaheen there, got to ask you about immigration, because coming off of this, you know, a week after the inaugural, already we're seeing john mccain and chuck schumer as the new odd couple in the senate and marco rubio joining in. is this a rare, but brief, bipartisanship in the senate, or might this thing actually yield comprehensive immigration reform? >> at the end of the day, i think we will get comprehensive immigration reform. i think it's propelled as a result of the election. this, again, is partisan politics, but one of the
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partisans understanding that this is a question of survival. and good news of that is that this is going to produce some common sense legislation that should have already been produced, but for the extremists on this issue. it's common sense to limit the number of bullets in a clip. it's common sense to do a criminal background check, and it's common sense that guns like ak-47s are for killing, not for hunting. >> but, you know, one of the positive aspects, i think, of the coming together around immigration and some of the other debates that we're having, the agreement on rules in the senate, is that sends a very strong message to the public who want us to work together, and i think the more we can do that and show that we can address the big challenges facing this country, the more confidence
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there's going to be in every other issue that we face, so i think it's very important that we're seeing this coming together to address big issues. >> thank you, both, so very much. senator shaheen, partly related to that shaheen amendment, which you and i have talked about before. coming up next, we have a segment with the director of the oscar-nominated documentary exposing the scandal of sexual assault in the military. ale ann] what are happy kids made of? bikes and balloons, wholesome noodles on spoons. a kite, a breeze, a dunk of grilled cheese. catches and throws, and spaghettio's. that's what happy kids are made of. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do.
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it's nice to have the experience and commitment to go along with you. keep dreaming. keep doing. go long. and i was told to call my next of kin. at 33 years old, i was having a heart attack. now i'm on a bayer aspirin regimen. [ male announcer ] be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. i didn't know this could happen so young. take control, talk to your doctor. if chuck hagel is confirmed as defense secretary, he's going to have to implement the new policy for women serving in combat. right now, a female soldier is more likely to be raped than killed in the line of duty. that's the subject of an oscar-nominated documentary, "the invisible war." >> loved that i could keep up with the guys and work as hard as they did. >> professionalism, camaraderie. >> giving it my all, it's what i chose to do.
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>> everything changed the day that i was raped. >> see a guy get five years for drugs and two weeks for rape. >> they let this guy get away with everything but murder. >> professional of the year award during the rape investigation. >> it was a laughing matter. >> kirby dick, director of "the invisible war." the data is horrifying. in 2011 alone, according to your reporting and the d.o.d.'s own statistics, your film reveals policies that enable this culture to occur. tell me about it. >> well, absolutely. and this has been going on for generations, so if you multiply those numbers back over generations, you're looking at hundreds of thousands of men and women that have been assaulted. this is something the military's been able to keep covered up during that entire length of time. one of the problems is the decision to investigate and prosecute these crimes are made by the chain of command. it really needs to be moved outside of the chain of command. >> you screened this with leon
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panetta. tell me about his reaction, the defense secretary, looking at a film like this. >> well, i wasn't in the room with him when he saw it, but we do know he was very moved by it, and it made such an impact on him, that several days later, he held a press conference that he said, in part, he held because of the impact the film made on him. >> the general accounting, or accountability office, i should say, has a new report that came out this week that says there is a major problem, continuing problem, in the way rape victims, once they report a crime or an alleged crime, how they are handled and how the evidence is handled. >> yeah. this is one of the real problems. i mean, obviously, investigating sexual assault crimes is very, very difficult, and there hasn't been enough training, even at the investigation level or people who are trained to talk to these people one-on-one when they come forward, so throughout the entire military, this has been a real problem. >> here we have these statistics
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of 23,000 assaults, and these are only those that are reported to authorities. how many go unreported because of peer pressure and the fears that all victims of sexual assault have to, you know, go up the chain of command? >> right. the d.o.d. estimates that 86% of sexual assaults in the military are not reported, and most of the time it's because these men and women fear coming forward because other men and women have experienced reprisals and they are advised by their peers not to report. >> now, we're talking about fully integrating women into combat, not that they haven't been in combat because of the nature of our wars, but this will reduce or lower, eliminate, the barriers to promotion. how will that impact on this problem, if it's not addressed immediately? >> well, it's a good thing, because, obviously, any kind of equality is good. i think it will lessen harassment, but the real problem here is most of these assaults are caused by serial predators, men who assault again and again.
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putting women in all parts of the military, that will not address that problem. the military has to go after these men and investigate and incarcerate and prosecute them with the same will that it fights a will. >> now, you were already an official winner, selection, at sundance. you're up for an oscar. tell me about that, about the awards and about the pressure and also the satisfaction of getting recognition for this work. >> well, we're really pleased that the film received academy award nomination. what we've noticed is every time there's attention to this film, you see a ripple effect in washington, d.c., and there's been many changes that have happened and movement that's happened because of the film, and so as more and more attention is paid on the film, more things happen in washington, d.c. so, certainly, we suspect that the film were to win, i actually think that would generate even more activity in washington. >> you've interviewed a number of victims of rape, here are some of the people who you interviewed in this documentary.
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>> they took me before my lieutenant commander. he says, do you think this is funny? i said, what do you mean? is this all a joke to you? what do you mean? he goes, you're the third girl to report rape this week. are you guys all in ka are you in coo that's? is this a game? >> i reported it two differently times and he said there was nothing they could do because they didn't have proof. >> they did charge me with adultery. i wasn't married. he was. >> this is such powerful stuff. what do you hope the message is if he is confirmed to the new secretary of defense, chuck hagel? >> he has to take this problem very, very seriously. again, i think most importantly he has to work towards taking this decision to investigate and prosecute out of the chain of command. the single most important thing they can do to reduce the sexual
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>> which political stories will make headlines? i think we will talk about guns and gabby gifford and mark kelly are going to the white house to see the president today. only today a 15-year-old chicago girl, a complete innocent victim hit in the crossfire of guns in chicago at a bus stop. one of the kids who performed at the inaugural had this moment. guns, guns, guns. >> you know, andrea, this day of testimony in the senate, let's see what the impact long-term will be. i hade hate to sound cynical, but all ind kigzs is anything
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like the assault weapons ban is not likely to pass. perhaps banning these high capacity ammunition magazines and perhaps universal background checks. the politics are hard because they are cultural. it's not often democrat and republican, but rural and urban and rural and suburban. it's a tough issue, but the emotional appeal by gabby giffords is something we can bear witness to and worth spending time talking about. >> they will be at the white house this afternoon and chuck hagel's confirmation hearing. thank you, chris, alyssa and my interview as well. that does it for us. join us tomorrow for the interview with form former vice president al gore. tamron hall has a look at what's next. >> you mentioned the young girl in chicago who performed in the president's inauguration being gunned down. breaking news out of the phoenix area where three people have
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been injured after a man walked into a mortgage company and opened fire. this as the senate hearing just wrapped up. we will have reaction from lawmaker who is will join the hour. plus we are learning more about the shooting out of chicago. john kerry's interim replacement will deliver his farewell speech on the senate floor within the hour. we will bring you senator kerry's farewell to the senate. our gut check, should it have been barney? ad those moments. when you lost the thing you can't believe you lost. when what you just bought, just broke. or when you have a little trouble a long way from home... as an american express cardmember you can expect some help. but what you might not expect, is you can get all this with a prepaid card. spends like cash. feels like membership.
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